这几天风声诡秘，估计国一号臭棋篓子令狐军师有麻烦了，一步臭棋累主子
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
作者: 三炮政治部(楚.城.红.菊) [198565:418], 23:26:07 04/21/2012:
- 论剑谈棋 豪杰尽聚 - 华岳论坛 - http://washeng.net/
军队向胡温摇尾巴的，最高到二炮政治部主任。
郭伯雄提到过团结在胡公公周围，其他军队高官一概回避薄熙来的表态。
薄熙来的名字在WG喉舌类报纸上消失了。
泼脏水污蔑薄熙来的话不见了，
上海，广东，北京等没有出现表忠心的文章，只是转载日***的文章。
所有高官没有一个出面倒薄。张德江的口中压根都没有说过薄熙来3个字。
网上一边倒支持薄熙来，
公公太监们感到民意一边倒，估计倒薄玩不下去了。
真正的十八大权力分配大戏好像快拉开幕了。
*** 回应主帖
*** 返回论坛
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
跟帖目录:
张非但不倒不厚，反显同情，至以克强要去渝督战。 - 最新动态 00:04:30 04/22/2012
这不就很说明问题了吗？张德江非但没完成任务，反成了薄的同情者 - 末允 00:18:37 04/22/2012
几天系统繁忙，不想动态竟至于此。。。我国官场水够深/no_text - 观察员9 00:28:21 04/22/2012
如果老兄說的是事實，那真是〝且看明日城中，到底是誰家 - Kcng 00:42:01 04/22/2012
美国《花生囤油包》又开始将矛头对准周永康： - 末允 00:53:31 04/22/2012
18D要么中共灭亡、汉奸卖国贼得势，要么汉奸卖国贼被清算、爱国的左翼和中翼掌控局面? - 98SOE81 07:19:01 04/22/2012
政治运动是民意的体现 - o565484 08:14:45 04/22/2012
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 0 ]
张非但不倒不厚，反显同情，至以克强要去渝督战。
大戏才刚开场。
[ 1:15 ] 最新动态(吴.县.金.桑) - 00:04:30 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 1 ]
这不就很说明问题了吗？张德江非但没完成任务，反成了薄的同情者
逼得令狐军师让河蟹把自己亲信蟑螂派到个重庆去强行网罗罪名，这不是很卑鄙的一幕是什么？
[ 2:84 ] 末允(韩.岗.箭.石) - 00:18:37 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 2 ]
几天系统繁忙，不想动态竟至于此。。。我国官场水够深/no_text
[ 4:0 ] 观察员9(蜀.园.百.花) - 00:28:21 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 2 ]
如果老兄說的是事實，那真是〝且看明日城中，到底是誰家
天下？〞了。事情不会如此戲劇化吧！
[ 5:34 ] Kcng(蜀.岗.黛.莓) - 00:42:01 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 5 ]
美国《花生囤油包》又开始将矛头对准周永康：
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/after-ouster-of-bo-xilai-questions-surround-chinas-security-chief/2012/04/20/gIQAwX3IWT_story.html?wprss=rss_world
After ouster of Bo Xilai, questions surround China’s security chief
By Keith B. Richburg, Published: April 20
BEIJING — With Chinese politics roiled by the purge of Bo Xilai, a former provincial Communist *** chief, there are growing questions about whether the corruption and murder scandal that felled him might reach into the ***’s highest echelon to undercut an official considered Bo’s staunchest ally and defender. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"
Zhou Yongkang, China’s top official in charge of the country’s internal security apparatus, is considered close to Bo, and was the most prominent backer of some of Bo’s most controversial measures in Chongqing. Those included Bo’s ferocious clampdown on organized crime, his social welfare policies and a campaign to revive “red” culture that many saw as a worrying throwback to China’s violent Cultural Revolution. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"
Bo was dramatically removed from his post in Chongqing last month, and on April 10 stripped of his membership in the *** Central Committee and the 25-member Politburo. Authorities said Bo is being investigated for “severe violations” of the ***’s internal discipline rules while his wife and a household aide were arrested on suspicion of killing British businessman Neil Heywood. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"
As the scandal continues to unfold — fueled by Internet rumor and reports on overseas Mandarin-language Web sites hostile to the Chinese government — speculation has now centered on Zhou’s relationship with Bo, and whether Zhou might eventually become the next casualty of the Communist ***’s biggest leadership crisis in more than two decades. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"
Zhou’s future and fate are of more than passing interest here, since he is one of the most powerful, if less visible, figures in the Chinese Communist ***, with control of the vast security forces and the judiciary, including all the prosecutors. He sits on the nine-member Politburo Standing Committee, which effectively runs the country as a kind of collective leadership; its other members include China’s president and prime minister. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"
The speculation intensified this week with the release of an April 17 Xinhua editorial hinting that more high-level firings may be coming. “The investigation into Bo,” the editorial said, “serves as a declaration to all *** members that no matter what position one holds, *** members shall never place themselves over *** discipline and the law.” ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"
Chinese authorities have released little about their ongoing investigation into Bo, his wife, Gu Kailai, or other associates in his Chongqing inner circle who have been detained. In the vacuum of real information, citizens who have been closely following the saga through overseas Internet reports, and outside China-watchers, have been trying to glean information from the most innocuous signs, such as how much or how little a senior leader appears in the official media. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"
Zhou’s past and present statements and appearances are being closely dissected for any hints of internal strife.
For example, on March 8, during the annual meeting of China’s national legislature, Zhou made a highly-public appearance before the delegation from Chongqing, heaping praise on Bo and his achievements. Bo at the time was already reeling from his former police chief Wang Lijun’s flight to the American consulate in Chengdu, where Wang first outlined a dramatic tale of political intrigue, corruption and murder in Chongqing. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"
But exactly a week after Zhou’s high-profile endorsement, Bo was removed as Chongqing *** chief. Zhou then disappeared for a week from state-run television and newspapers, leading to questions about whether he had been sacked — and the period coincided with persistent, unsubstantiated rumors of a rift in the top ranks, or the wild rumor that Zhou was leading a coup. Then a March 23 photograph showed Zhou meeting the visiting Indonesian foreign minister, seeming to temporarily dispel the rumors. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"
Zhou’s most recent public appearance — on April 12, with the Shanghai Cooperation Council, and an April meeting with a visiting Communist official from Cuba — also seemed to quiet the continuing Internet-based chatter that he was being investigated, or on his way out. Still, the speculation has not died down entirely; as some have noted, Bo himself also appeared in public until the day before he was sacked as Chongqing chief.
Deep connections
In the past, when China’s Communist *** was led by strongmen such as Mao Zedong and later Deng Xiaoping, a top official could be removed instantly — as when Deng removed Zhao Ziyang as *** general secretary in 1989 because of Zhao’s sympathy for pro-democracy protesters occupying Tiananmen Square.
But some experts who analyze China’s secretive elite politics say the more diffuse nature of the current power structure could protect Zhou from trouble. While removing a member of China’s broader Politburo is not unheard of, they say, it would be far more problematic to remove one of the nine Standing Committee members.
Zhou is 71, and had been expected to step down this fall at the time of the 18th *** Congress this fall, a gathering that will usher in a new generation of leaders, led by Vice President Xi Jinping, who is all but assured to become president. Forcing out a septuagenarian months ahead of his retirement might be too tumultuous, some said; rather, he might be allowed to retire, and, like other fallen officials, remain in obscurity.
“I don’t believe that Zhou Yongkang is really in danger now,” said Li Datong, an independent social analyst. “The *** will totally lose credibility in the eyes of the Chinese if even a Standing Committee member has violated the law and the ***’s discipline rules.”
Zhou and Bo’s connections go far back, despite their widely divergent backgrounds and the 10-year age difference.
Zhou, an engineer and graduate of the Beijing Petroleum Institute, was the general manager of the state-run China National Petroleum Corporation before he became a minister and *** chief in Sichuan province under former president Jiang Zemin. Bo, the “princeling” son of a revolutionary hero, Bo Yibo, is also considered a protégé of Jiang’s.
During that March meeting of the legislature, when Zhou dropped by the Chongqing delegation, Bo also showered Zhou with compliments. Bo noted that when Zhou was the Sichuan *** chief, he promoted the development of both Sichuan and Chongqing. Bo also noted how Zhou had visited Chongqing at the height of Bo’s crackdown on crime, inspecting the local police and public security forces and giving prominent backing to Bo’s anti-crime efforts.
Zhou was also the most prominent booster of Bo’s “red revival” campaign that included gathering students, government bureaucrats and others together in public parks to sing revolutionary anthems. Zhou attended a red singing performance in November 2010, and said he might launch the same movement in the judiciary system.
Still, it remained uncertain whether Zhou would be swept up in Bo’s scandal. Cheng Li, an expert on China’s leadership with the Brookings Institution, said some rumors about Zhou — including the notion that he he was plotting a coup — have already been proved false, but others may have merit.
“My sense is that at least for now, the top leadership does not intend to go beyond the Politburo level for various reasons,” he said. “Stability and unity are among the most important. But no one knows how the whole story will unfold in the weeks and months to come.”
[ 6:7706 ] 末允(韩.岗.箭.石) - 00:53:31 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 0 ]
18D要么中共灭亡、汉奸卖国贼得势，要么汉奸卖国贼被清算、爱国的左翼和中翼掌控局面?
18D要么中共灭亡、汉奸卖国贼得势，要么汉奸卖国贼被清算、爱国的左翼和中翼掌控局面。
[ 7:81 ] 98SOE81(魏.都.千.岩) - 07:19:01 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 0 ]
政治运动是民意的体现
这正是中国的社会主义制度的优越性之所在。民意在中国的分量要比在欧美的力量大得多。中国的新闻集团还不是受资产集团控制的。
为何要让事业单位专成企业单位？一旦资本集团垄断了意识形态，那么民意将被彻底控制。中国的资本集团无法完全控制媒体，就无法完全控制民意。
其实党内斗争并不可怕，相反，有斗争才有真理。
[ 8:298 ] o565484(齐.园.赏.松) - 08:14:45 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
作者: 三炮政治部(楚.城.红.菊) [198565:418], 23:26:07 04/21/2012:
- 论剑谈棋 豪杰尽聚 - 华岳论坛 - http://washeng.net/
军队向胡温摇尾巴的，最高到二炮政治部主任。
郭伯雄提到过团结在胡公公周围，其他军队高官一概回避薄熙来的表态。
薄熙来的名字在WG喉舌类报纸上消失了。
泼脏水污蔑薄熙来的话不见了，
上海，广东，北京等没有出现表忠心的文章，只是转载日***的文章。
所有高官没有一个出面倒薄。张德江的口中压根都没有说过薄熙来3个字。
网上一边倒支持薄熙来，
公公太监们感到民意一边倒，估计倒薄玩不下去了。
真正的十八大权力分配大戏好像快拉开幕了。
*** 回应主帖
*** 返回论坛
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
跟帖目录:
张非但不倒不厚，反显同情，至以克强要去渝督战。 - 最新动态 00:04:30 04/22/2012
这不就很说明问题了吗？张德江非但没完成任务，反成了薄的同情者 - 末允 00:18:37 04/22/2012
几天系统繁忙，不想动态竟至于此。。。我国官场水够深/no_text - 观察员9 00:28:21 04/22/2012
如果老兄說的是事實，那真是〝且看明日城中，到底是誰家 - Kcng 00:42:01 04/22/2012
美国《花生囤油包》又开始将矛头对准周永康： - 末允 00:53:31 04/22/2012
18D要么中共灭亡、汉奸卖国贼得势，要么汉奸卖国贼被清算、爱国的左翼和中翼掌控局面? - 98SOE81 07:19:01 04/22/2012
政治运动是民意的体现 - o565484 08:14:45 04/22/2012
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 0 ]
张非但不倒不厚，反显同情，至以克强要去渝督战。
大戏才刚开场。
[ 1:15 ] 最新动态(吴.县.金.桑) - 00:04:30 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 1 ]
这不就很说明问题了吗？张德江非但没完成任务，反成了薄的同情者
逼得令狐军师让河蟹把自己亲信蟑螂派到个重庆去强行网罗罪名，这不是很卑鄙的一幕是什么？
[ 2:84 ] 末允(韩.岗.箭.石) - 00:18:37 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 2 ]
几天系统繁忙，不想动态竟至于此。。。我国官场水够深/no_text
[ 4:0 ] 观察员9(蜀.园.百.花) - 00:28:21 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 2 ]
如果老兄說的是事實，那真是〝且看明日城中，到底是誰家
天下？〞了。事情不会如此戲劇化吧！
[ 5:34 ] Kcng(蜀.岗.黛.莓) - 00:42:01 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 5 ]
美国《花生囤油包》又开始将矛头对准周永康：
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/after-ouster-of-bo-xilai-questions-surround-chinas-security-chief/2012/04/20/gIQAwX3IWT_story.html?wprss=rss_world
After ouster of Bo Xilai, questions surround China’s security chief
By Keith B. Richburg, Published: April 20
BEIJING — With Chinese politics roiled by the purge of Bo Xilai, a former provincial Communist *** chief, there are growing questions about whether the corruption and murder scandal that felled him might reach into the ***’s highest echelon to undercut an official considered Bo’s staunchest ally and defender. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"
Zhou Yongkang, China’s top official in charge of the country’s internal security apparatus, is considered close to Bo, and was the most prominent backer of some of Bo’s most controversial measures in Chongqing. Those included Bo’s ferocious clampdown on organized crime, his social welfare policies and a campaign to revive “red” culture that many saw as a worrying throwback to China’s violent Cultural Revolution. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"
Bo was dramatically removed from his post in Chongqing last month, and on April 10 stripped of his membership in the *** Central Committee and the 25-member Politburo. Authorities said Bo is being investigated for “severe violations” of the ***’s internal discipline rules while his wife and a household aide were arrested on suspicion of killing British businessman Neil Heywood. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"
As the scandal continues to unfold — fueled by Internet rumor and reports on overseas Mandarin-language Web sites hostile to the Chinese government — speculation has now centered on Zhou’s relationship with Bo, and whether Zhou might eventually become the next casualty of the Communist ***’s biggest leadership crisis in more than two decades. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"
Zhou’s future and fate are of more than passing interest here, since he is one of the most powerful, if less visible, figures in the Chinese Communist ***, with control of the vast security forces and the judiciary, including all the prosecutors. He sits on the nine-member Politburo Standing Committee, which effectively runs the country as a kind of collective leadership; its other members include China’s president and prime minister. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"
The speculation intensified this week with the release of an April 17 Xinhua editorial hinting that more high-level firings may be coming. “The investigation into Bo,” the editorial said, “serves as a declaration to all *** members that no matter what position one holds, *** members shall never place themselves over *** discipline and the law.” ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"
Chinese authorities have released little about their ongoing investigation into Bo, his wife, Gu Kailai, or other associates in his Chongqing inner circle who have been detained. In the vacuum of real information, citizens who have been closely following the saga through overseas Internet reports, and outside China-watchers, have been trying to glean information from the most innocuous signs, such as how much or how little a senior leader appears in the official media. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"
Zhou’s past and present statements and appearances are being closely dissected for any hints of internal strife.
For example, on March 8, during the annual meeting of China’s national legislature, Zhou made a highly-public appearance before the delegation from Chongqing, heaping praise on Bo and his achievements. Bo at the time was already reeling from his former police chief Wang Lijun’s flight to the American consulate in Chengdu, where Wang first outlined a dramatic tale of political intrigue, corruption and murder in Chongqing. ...华岳论坛 - "http://hua-yue.net"
But exactly a week after Zhou’s high-profile endorsement, Bo was removed as Chongqing *** chief. Zhou then disappeared for a week from state-run television and newspapers, leading to questions about whether he had been sacked — and the period coincided with persistent, unsubstantiated rumors of a rift in the top ranks, or the wild rumor that Zhou was leading a coup. Then a March 23 photograph showed Zhou meeting the visiting Indonesian foreign minister, seeming to temporarily dispel the rumors. ...华岳论坛 - "http://washeng.net"
Zhou’s most recent public appearance — on April 12, with the Shanghai Cooperation Council, and an April meeting with a visiting Communist official from Cuba — also seemed to quiet the continuing Internet-based chatter that he was being investigated, or on his way out. Still, the speculation has not died down entirely; as some have noted, Bo himself also appeared in public until the day before he was sacked as Chongqing chief.
Deep connections
In the past, when China’s Communist *** was led by strongmen such as Mao Zedong and later Deng Xiaoping, a top official could be removed instantly — as when Deng removed Zhao Ziyang as *** general secretary in 1989 because of Zhao’s sympathy for pro-democracy protesters occupying Tiananmen Square.
But some experts who analyze China’s secretive elite politics say the more diffuse nature of the current power structure could protect Zhou from trouble. While removing a member of China’s broader Politburo is not unheard of, they say, it would be far more problematic to remove one of the nine Standing Committee members.
Zhou is 71, and had been expected to step down this fall at the time of the 18th *** Congress this fall, a gathering that will usher in a new generation of leaders, led by Vice President Xi Jinping, who is all but assured to become president. Forcing out a septuagenarian months ahead of his retirement might be too tumultuous, some said; rather, he might be allowed to retire, and, like other fallen officials, remain in obscurity.
“I don’t believe that Zhou Yongkang is really in danger now,” said Li Datong, an independent social analyst. “The *** will totally lose credibility in the eyes of the Chinese if even a Standing Committee member has violated the law and the ***’s discipline rules.”
Zhou and Bo’s connections go far back, despite their widely divergent backgrounds and the 10-year age difference.
Zhou, an engineer and graduate of the Beijing Petroleum Institute, was the general manager of the state-run China National Petroleum Corporation before he became a minister and *** chief in Sichuan province under former president Jiang Zemin. Bo, the “princeling” son of a revolutionary hero, Bo Yibo, is also considered a protégé of Jiang’s.
During that March meeting of the legislature, when Zhou dropped by the Chongqing delegation, Bo also showered Zhou with compliments. Bo noted that when Zhou was the Sichuan *** chief, he promoted the development of both Sichuan and Chongqing. Bo also noted how Zhou had visited Chongqing at the height of Bo’s crackdown on crime, inspecting the local police and public security forces and giving prominent backing to Bo’s anti-crime efforts.
Zhou was also the most prominent booster of Bo’s “red revival” campaign that included gathering students, government bureaucrats and others together in public parks to sing revolutionary anthems. Zhou attended a red singing performance in November 2010, and said he might launch the same movement in the judiciary system.
Still, it remained uncertain whether Zhou would be swept up in Bo’s scandal. Cheng Li, an expert on China’s leadership with the Brookings Institution, said some rumors about Zhou — including the notion that he he was plotting a coup — have already been proved false, but others may have merit.
“My sense is that at least for now, the top leadership does not intend to go beyond the Politburo level for various reasons,” he said. “Stability and unity are among the most important. But no one knows how the whole story will unfold in the weeks and months to come.”
[ 6:7706 ] 末允(韩.岗.箭.石) - 00:53:31 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 0 ]
18D要么中共灭亡、汉奸卖国贼得势，要么汉奸卖国贼被清算、爱国的左翼和中翼掌控局面?
18D要么中共灭亡、汉奸卖国贼得势，要么汉奸卖国贼被清算、爱国的左翼和中翼掌控局面。
[ 7:81 ] 98SOE81(魏.都.千.岩) - 07:19:01 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
原 帖 [ 0 ]
政治运动是民意的体现
这正是中国的社会主义制度的优越性之所在。民意在中国的分量要比在欧美的力量大得多。中国的新闻集团还不是受资产集团控制的。
为何要让事业单位专成企业单位？一旦资本集团垄断了意识形态，那么民意将被彻底控制。中国的资本集团无法完全控制媒体，就无法完全控制民意。
其实党内斗争并不可怕，相反，有斗争才有真理。
[ 8:298 ] o565484(齐.园.赏.松) - 08:14:45 04/22/2012 *** 回 帖
